{"id":105,"date":"2012-05-13T20:55:07","date_gmt":"2012-05-13T14:55:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/intelligent-torvalds.74-208-171-134.plesk.page\/?p=105"},"modified":"2024-04-26T09:12:14","modified_gmt":"2024-04-26T14:12:14","slug":"forgiveness-and-my-religious-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/religiousmind.net\/?p=105","title":{"rendered":"Forgiveness and my Religious Mind"},"content":{"rendered":"

If Jesus prayed<\/a> Father, leave them<\/em> (\u1f04\u03c6\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5<\/a>\u00a0\u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u03bf\u03cd\u03c2<\/a>), for they don\u2019t know what they are doing<\/em>, as He was crucified rather than Father, forgive them<\/em> (\u03b1\u03c6\u03b5\u03c2<\/a> \u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03bf\u03b9\u03c2<\/a>), for they don\u2019t know <\/em>(\u03bf\u1f34\u03b4\u03b1\u03c3\u03b9\u03bd<\/a>, a form of \u03b5\u1f34\u03b4\u03c9<\/a>) what they are doing<\/em> (\u03c0\u03bf\u03b9\u03bf\u1fe6\u03c3\u03b9\u03bd<\/a>, a form of \u03c0\u03bf\u03b9\u03ad\u03c9<\/a>), that\u2019s a big difference, too big to turn on the translation of one word\u00a0(\u03b1\u03c6\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5 and\u00a0\u03b1\u03c6\u03b5\u03c2 are forms of\u00a0\u1f00\u03c6\u03af\u03b7\u03bc\u03b9<\/a>).\u00a0 Yet that seems to be my only choice when comparing Luke 23:34<\/a> with Matthew 15:14.<\/p>\n

In Matthew 15:14<\/a> (NET) Jesus spoke to his disciples about the Pharisees, Leave<\/em> (\u1f04\u03c6\u03b5\u03c4\u03b5, a form of \u1f00\u03c6\u03af\u03b7\u03bc\u03b9) them!\u00a0 They are blind guides<\/a>.\u00a0 If someone who is blind leads another who is blind, both will fall into a pit.<\/em>\u00a0 In Luke 23:34 the Greek word \u03b5\u1f34\u03b4\u03c9 is the knowledge gained by seeing.\u00a0 In contemporary colloquial usage then the word might be translated, Father, forgive<\/em>\u00a0them, for they don\u2019t <\/em>[see]\u00a0what they are doing<\/em>.\u00a0 Both suffer from a lack of vision on the path they have chosen.\u00a0 But the disciples were told to leave<\/em> the one and God was implored to forgive<\/em> the other.<\/p>\n

My religious mind is tempted to consider that Jesus actually prayed Father,<\/em> [leave them], for they don\u2019t know what they are doing<\/em> for one reason, and one reason only.\u00a0 It likes rules, laws, guidelines and principles, for others certainly, but even for itself.\u00a0 Within the bounds of those rules, laws, guidelines and principles it feels safe and righteous.\u00a0 Adherence to rules is its primary means of self-justification.\u00a0 Without rules, laws, guidelines and principles it feels desperate and lost.\u00a0 My religious mind expects Jesus to follow the rules, too, particularly the rule of \u1f00\u03c6\u03af\u03b7\u03bc\u03b9 He inspired in 1 John 1:9 and 10<\/a> (if\u00a0we confess\u00a0our\u00a0sins,\u00a0he is\u00a0faithful\u00a0and righteous,\u00a0forgiving\u00a0us\u00a0our sins<\/em>)\u00a0and articulated in Luke 17:3 and 4<\/a> (If\u00a0he repents,\u00a0forgive\u00a0him<\/em>).\u00a0 But God did not bind Himself to rules when it comes to being gracious or showing mercy to humanity.<\/p>\n

I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, I will show mercy to whom I will show mercy<\/em>1<\/sup><\/a> He said to Moses even after giving the law at Mount Sinai.\u00a0 It makes sense then that the dying Son of God would not be constrained by the rule of \u1f00\u03c6\u03af\u03b7\u03bc\u03b9 when he prayed for forgiveness for humanity to his Father the living God.\u00a0 And John wrote (1 John 2:1, 2 NET):<\/p>\n

(My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin [\u1f01\u03bc\u03ac\u03c1\u03c4\u03b7\u03c4\u03b5<\/a>, a form of \u1f01\u03bc\u03b1\u03c1\u03c4\u03ac\u03bd\u03c9<\/a>]<\/em>.)\u00a0 But if anyone does sin (\u1f01\u03bc\u03ac\u03c1\u03c4\u1fc3<\/a>, another form of \u1f01\u03bc\u03b1\u03c1\u03c4\u03ac\u03bd\u03c9)<\/em>, we have an advocate (\u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u03ac\u03ba\u03bb\u03b7\u03c4\u03bf\u03bd<\/a>, a form of \u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u03ac\u03ba\u03bb\u03b7\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2<\/a>) <\/em>with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous One (\u03b4\u03af\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03bf\u03bd<\/a>, a form of \u03b4\u03af\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03bf\u03c2<\/a>)<\/em>, and he himself is the atoning sacrifice (\u1f31\u03bb\u03b1\u03c3\u03bc\u03cc\u03c2<\/a>) <\/em>for our sins (\u1f01\u03bc\u03b1\u03c1\u03c4\u03b9\u1ff6\u03bd<\/a>, a form of \u1f01\u03bc\u03b1\u03c1\u03c4\u03af\u03b1<\/a>)<\/em>, and not only for our sins but also for the whole world.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Paul wrote (Romans 8:31-39 NET):<\/p>\n

What then shall we say about these things?\u00a0 If God is for us, who can be against us? \u00a0Indeed, he who did not spare his own Son, but2<\/sup><\/a> <\/em>gave him up for us all \u2013 how will he not also, along with him, freely give us all things? \u00a0Who will bring any charge against God\u2019s elect?\u00a0 It is God who justifies. \u00a0Who is the one who will condemn?\u00a0 Christ is the one who died (and more than that,3<\/sup><\/a> <\/em>he was raised), who is at the right hand of God, and who also is interceding for us. \u00a0Who will separate us from the love of Christ?\u00a0 Will trouble, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? \u00a0As it is written, \u201cFor your sake<\/a> we encounter death all day long; we were considered as sheep to be slaughtered\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>(See <\/em>Table1<\/a> below) [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.\u201d \u00a0No, in all these things we have complete victory through him who loved us! \u00a0For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor heavenly rulers, nor things that are present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

But I would like to know what Jesus thought about it. \u00a0Interestingly, He left enough clues to indicate what He was thinking and what He was believing, the literal content of the faith that sustained Him as He died on the cross.\u00a0 At about three<\/em>4<\/sup><\/a> o\u2019clock Jesus shouted with a loud voice, \u201cEli, Eli, lema<\/em>5<\/sup><\/a> sabachthani?\u201d that is,<\/em> \u201cMy God, my God, why have you forsaken me<\/em><\/strong>?\u201d6<\/sup><\/a>\u00a0 This is the first line of Psalm 22 (See Table2<\/a> below).\u00a0 When he had received the sour wine, Jesus said, \u201cIt is completed!\u201d\u00a0 Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.<\/em>7<\/sup><\/a> Completion<\/em> or accomplishment<\/em> of salvation is the last thought of Psalm 22 (NET).<\/p>\n

My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?
\nI groan in prayer, but help seems far away [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nMy God, I cry out during the day,
\nbut you do not answer,
\nand during the night my prayers do not let up [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p>\n

You are holy;
\nyou sit as king receiving the praises of Israel [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nIn you our ancestors trusted;
\nthey trusted in you and you rescued them [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nTo you they cried out, and they were saved;
\nin you they trusted and they were not disappointed [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p>\n

But I am a worm, not a man;
\npeople insult me and despise me [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nAll who see me taunt me;
\nthey mock me and shake their heads [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nThey say,
\n\u201cCommit yourself to the Lord!
\nLet the Lord rescue him!
\nLet the Lord deliver him, for he delights in him [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n

Yes, you are the one who brought me out from the womb
\nand made me feel secure on my mother\u2019s breasts [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nI have been dependent on you since birth;
\nfrom the time I came out of my mother\u2019s womb you have been my God [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nDo not remain far away from me,
\nfor trouble is near and I have no one to help me [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Many bulls surround me;
\npowerful bulls of Bashan hem me in [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nThey open their mouths to devour me
\nlike a roaring lion that rips its prey [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nMy strength drains away like water;
\nall my bones are dislocated;
\nmy heart is like wax;
\nit melts away inside me [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nThe roof of my mouth is as dry as a piece of pottery;
\nmy tongue sticks to my gums.<\/p>\n

You set me in the dust of death [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nYes, wild dogs surround me \u2013
\na gang of evil men crowd around me;
\nlike a lion they pin my hands and feet [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nI can count all my bones;
\nmy enemies are gloating over me in triumph [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nThey are dividing up my clothes among themselves;
\nthey are rolling dice for my garments [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p>\n

But you, O Lord, do not remain far away!
\nYou are my source of strength! \u00a0Hurry and help me [Table<\/a>]<\/em>!
\nDeliver me from the sword!
\nSave my life from the claws of the wild dogs [Table<\/a>]<\/em>!
\nRescue me from the mouth of the lion,
\nand from the horns of the wild oxen!<\/p>\n

You have answered me! [Table<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n

I will declare your name to my countrymen!
\nIn the middle of the assembly I will praise you! [Table<\/a>]<\/em>
\nYou loyal followers of the Lord, praise him!
\nAll you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
\nAll you descendants of Israel, stand in awe of him! [Table<\/a>]<\/em>
\nFor he did not despise or detest the suffering of the oppressed;
\nhe did not ignore him;
\nwhen he cried out to him, he responded [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p>\n

You are the reason I offer praise in the great assembly;
\nI will fulfill my promises before the Lord\u2019s loyal followers [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nLet the oppressed eat and be filled!
\nLet those who seek his help praise the Lord!
\nMay you live forever! [Table<\/a>]<\/em><\/p>\n

Let all the people of the earth acknowledge the Lord and turn to him!<\/p>\n

Let all the nations worship you! [Table<\/a>]<\/em>
\nFor the Lord is king
\nand rules over the nations [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nAll of the thriving people of the earth will join the celebration and worship;
\nall those who are descending into the grave will bow before him,
\nincluding those who cannot preserve their lives [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nA whole generation will serve him;
\nthey will tell the next generation about the sovereign Lord [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.
\nThey will come and tell about his saving deeds;
\nthey will tell a future generation what he has accomplished [Table<\/a>]<\/em>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Here is the forgiveness, the mercy, the grace and salvation of God in Jesus the Christ.\u00a0 I do not doubt that Jesus prayed, Father, forgive them<\/em>, for they don\u2019t know what they are doing<\/em>.<\/p>\n

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Addendum<\/strong>: October 12, 2018
\nTables comparing the Greek of the Old Testament quotation in Romans 8:36b with Psalm 44:22<\/a>\u00a0and that in Matthew 27:46 with Psalm 22:1a<\/a> in the Septuagint, and tables of Romans 8:32<\/a>; 8:34<\/a> and Matthew 27:46<\/a> comparing the NET and KJV follow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/a>Romans 8:36b (NET parallel Greek)<\/a><\/td>\n\n

Psalm 44:22 (Septuagint)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\u1f45\u03c4\u03b9 \u1f15\u03bd\u03b5\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd \u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf\u1f7b\u03bc\u03b5\u03b8\u03b1 \u1f45\u03bb\u03b7\u03bd \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u1f21\u03bc\u1f73\u03c1\u03b1\u03bd, \u1f10\u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u1f77\u03c3\u03b8\u03b7\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd \u1f61\u03c2 \u03c0\u03c1\u1f79\u03b2\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1 \u03c3\u03c6\u03b1\u03b3\u1fc6\u03c2<\/td>\n\u1f45\u03c4\u03b9 \u1f15\u03bd\u03b5\u03ba\u03b1 \u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf\u1f7b\u03bc\u03b5\u03b8\u03b1 \u1f45\u03bb\u03b7\u03bd \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u1f21\u03bc\u1f73\u03c1\u03b1\u03bd \u1f10\u03bb\u03bf\u03b3\u1f77\u03c3\u03b8\u03b7\u03bc\u03b5\u03bd \u1f61\u03c2 \u03c0\u03c1\u1f79\u03b2\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1 \u03c3\u03c6\u03b1\u03b3\u1fc6\u03c2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/a>Matthew 27:46b (NET parallel Greek)<\/a><\/td>\n\n

Psalm 22:1a (Septuagint)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\u0398\u03b5\u1f73<\/a> \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u1f73 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5, \u1f31\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u1f77 \u03bc\u03b5 \u1f10\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u1f73\u03bb\u03b9\u03c0\u03b5\u03c2<\/td>\n\u1f41<\/a> <\/strong>\u03b8\u03b5\u1f78\u03c2<\/a> \u1f41 <\/strong>\u03b8\u03b5\u1f79\u03c2 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03c0\u03c1\u1f79\u03c3\u03c7\u03b5\u03c2<\/a> \u03bc\u03bf\u03b9<\/strong> \u1f35\u03bd\u03b1 \u03c4\u1f77 \u1f10\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u1f73\u03bb\u03b9\u03c0\u1f73\u03c2 \u03bc\u03b5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/a>Romans 8:32 (NET)<\/td>\n\n

Romans 8:32 (KJV)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

Indeed, he who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all \u2013 how will he not also, along with him, freely give us all things?<\/td>\nHe that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
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NET Parallel Greek<\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n

Stephanus Textus Receptus<\/a><\/td>\n\n

Byzantine Majority Text<\/a><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

\u1f45\u03c2 \u03b3\u03b5 \u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 \u1f30\u03b4\u1f77\u03bf\u03c5 \u03c5\u1f31\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03bf\u1f50\u03ba \u1f10\u03c6\u03b5\u1f77\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1f70<\/a> <\/strong>\u1f51\u03c0\u1f72\u03c1 \u1f21\u03bc\u1ff6\u03bd \u03c0\u1f71\u03bd\u03c4\u03c9\u03bd \u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u1f73\u03b4\u03c9\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1f79\u03bd, \u03c0\u1ff6\u03c2 \u03bf\u1f50\u03c7\u1f76 \u03ba\u03b1\u1f76 \u03c3\u1f7a\u03bd \u03b1\u1f50\u03c4\u1ff7 \u03c4\u1f70 \u03c0\u1f71\u03bd\u03c4\u03b1 \u1f21\u03bc\u1fd6\u03bd \u03c7\u03b1\u03c1\u1f77\u03c3\u03b5\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9<\/td>\n\u03bf\u03c2 \u03b3\u03b5 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b9\u03b4\u03b9\u03bf\u03c5 \u03c5\u03b9\u03bf\u03c5 \u03bf\u03c5\u03ba \u03b5\u03c6\u03b5\u03b9\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf \u03b1\u03bb\u03bb<\/a> \u03c5\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03c9\u03bd \u03c0\u03b1\u03bd\u03c4\u03c9\u03bd \u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u03b5\u03b4\u03c9\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd \u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03bf\u03bd \u03c0\u03c9\u03c2 \u03bf\u03c5\u03c7\u03b9 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03c3\u03c5\u03bd \u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03c9 \u03c4\u03b1 \u03c0\u03b1\u03bd\u03c4\u03b1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03b9\u03bd \u03c7\u03b1\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03b5\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9<\/td>\n\u03bf\u03c2 \u03b3\u03b5 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b9\u03b4\u03b9\u03bf\u03c5 \u03c5\u03b9\u03bf\u03c5 \u03bf\u03c5\u03ba \u03b5\u03c6\u03b5\u03b9\u03c3\u03b1\u03c4\u03bf \u03b1\u03bb\u03bb \u03c5\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03c9\u03bd \u03c0\u03b1\u03bd\u03c4\u03c9\u03bd \u03c0\u03b1\u03c1\u03b5\u03b4\u03c9\u03ba\u03b5\u03bd \u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03bf\u03bd \u03c0\u03c9\u03c2 \u03bf\u03c5\u03c7\u03b9 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03c3\u03c5\u03bd \u03b1\u03c5\u03c4\u03c9 \u03c4\u03b1 \u03c0\u03b1\u03bd\u03c4\u03b1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03b9\u03bd \u03c7\u03b1\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03b5\u03c4\u03b1\u03b9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
<\/a>Romans 8:34 (NET)<\/td>\n\n

Romans 8:34 (KJV)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

Who is the one who will condemn? \u00a0Christ is the one who died (and more than that, he was raised), who is at the right hand of God, and who also is interceding for us.<\/td>\nWho is he that condemneth? \u00a0It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
NET Parallel Greek<\/a><\/td>\nStephanus Textus Receptus<\/a><\/td>\nByzantine Majority Text<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\u03c4\u1f77\u03c2 \u1f41 \u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1\u03ba\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd\u1ff6\u03bd\u037e \u03a7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u1f78\u03c2\u00a0 \u1f41 \u1f00\u03c0\u03bf\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u1f7d\u03bd (\u03bc\u1fb6\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd<\/a> \u03b4\u1f72 \u1f10\u03b3\u03b5\u03c1\u03b8\u03b5\u1f77\u03c2 ), \u1f43\u03c2 |\u03ba\u03b1\u1f77| \u1f10\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd \u1f10\u03bd \u03b4\u03b5\u03be\u03b9\u1fb7 \u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6 \u03b8\u03b5\u03bf\u1fe6, \u1f43\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u1f76 \u1f10\u03bd\u03c4\u03c5\u03b3\u03c7\u1f71\u03bd\u03b5\u03b9 \u1f51\u03c0\u1f72\u03c1 \u1f21\u03bc\u1ff6\u03bd<\/td>\n\u03c4\u03b9\u03c2 \u03bf \u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1\u03ba\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd\u03c9\u03bd \u03c7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2 \u03bf \u03b1\u03c0\u03bf\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03c9\u03bd \u03bc\u03b1\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9<\/strong><\/a> \u03b5\u03b3\u03b5\u03c1\u03b8\u03b5\u03b9\u03c2 \u03bf\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03b5\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd \u03b4\u03b5\u03be\u03b9\u03b1 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u03bf\u03c5 \u03bf\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03b5\u03bd\u03c4\u03c5\u03b3\u03c7\u03b1\u03bd\u03b5\u03b9 \u03c5\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03c9\u03bd<\/td>\n\u03c4\u03b9\u03c2 \u03bf \u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u03b1\u03ba\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd\u03c9\u03bd \u03c7\u03c1\u03b9\u03c3\u03c4\u03bf\u03c2 \u03bf \u03b1\u03c0\u03bf\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03c9\u03bd \u03bc\u03b1\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 <\/strong>\u03b5\u03b3\u03b5\u03c1\u03b8\u03b5\u03b9\u03c2 \u03bf\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03b5\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd \u03b4\u03b5\u03be\u03b9\u03b1 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u03bf\u03c5 \u03bf\u03c2 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9 \u03b5\u03bd\u03c4\u03c5\u03b3\u03c7\u03b1\u03bd\u03b5\u03b9 \u03c5\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1 \u03b7\u03bc\u03c9\u03bd<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
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<\/a>Matthew 27:46 (NET)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n

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Matthew 27:46 (KJV)<\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n

At about three o\u2019clock Jesus shouted with a loud voice, \u201cEli, Eli, lema sabachthani?\u201d that is, \u201cMy God, my God, why have you forsaken me?\u201d<\/td>\nAnd about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n\n\n\n
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\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1\u1f76 \u03b4\u1f72 \u03c4\u1f74\u03bd \u1f10\u03bd\u1f71\u03c4\u03b7\u03bd<\/a> \u1f65\u03c1\u03b1\u03bd |\u1f00\u03bd\u03b5\u03b2\u1f79\u03b7\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd| \u1f41 \u1f38\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u1fe6\u03c2 \u03c6\u03c9\u03bd\u1fc7 \u03bc\u03b5\u03b3\u1f71\u03bb\u1fc3 \u03bb\u1f73\u03b3\u03c9\u03bd\u0387 |\u1f20\u03bb\u03b9 \u1f20\u03bb\u03b9| \u03bb\u03b5\u03bc\u03b1<\/a> <\/strong>\u03c3\u03b1\u03b2\u03b1\u03c7\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03b9\u037e \u03c4\u03bf\u1fe6\u03c4\u1fbf \u1f14\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd\u0387 \u0398\u03b5\u1f73 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u1f73 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5, \u1f31\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u1f77 \u03bc\u03b5 \u1f10\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u1f73\u03bb\u03b9\u03c0\u03b5\u03c2<\/td>\n\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1\u03b9 \u03b4\u03b5 \u03c4\u03b7\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u03b7\u03bd<\/a> <\/strong>\u03c9\u03c1\u03b1\u03bd \u03b1\u03bd\u03b5\u03b2\u03bf\u03b7\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd \u03bf \u03b9\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u03c5\u03c2 \u03c6\u03c9\u03bd\u03b7 \u03bc\u03b5\u03b3\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7 \u03bb\u03b5\u03b3\u03c9\u03bd \u03b7\u03bb\u03b9 \u03b7\u03bb\u03b9 \u03bb\u03b1\u03bc\u03b1<\/a> <\/strong>\u03c3\u03b1\u03b2\u03b1\u03c7\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03b9 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5\u03c4 \u03b5\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd \u03b8\u03b5\u03b5 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u03b5 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b9\u03bd\u03b1 \u03c4\u03b9 \u03bc\u03b5 \u03b5\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5\u03bb\u03b9\u03c0\u03b5\u03c2<\/td>\n\u03c0\u03b5\u03c1\u03b9 \u03b4\u03b5 \u03c4\u03b7\u03bd \u03b5\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u03b7\u03bd \u03c9\u03c1\u03b1\u03bd \u03b1\u03bd\u03b5\u03b2\u03bf\u03b7\u03c3\u03b5\u03bd \u03bf \u03b9\u03b7\u03c3\u03bf\u03c5\u03c2 \u03c6\u03c9\u03bd\u03b7 \u03bc\u03b5\u03b3\u03b1\u03bb\u03b7 \u03bb\u03b5\u03b3\u03c9\u03bd \u03b7\u03bb\u03b9 \u03b7\u03bb\u03b9 \u03bb\u03b9\u03bc\u03b1 <\/a><\/strong>\u03c3\u03b1\u03b2\u03b1\u03c7\u03b8\u03b1\u03bd\u03b9 \u03c4\u03bf\u03c5\u03c4 \u03b5\u03c3\u03c4\u03b9\u03bd \u03b8\u03b5\u03b5 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b8\u03b5\u03b5 \u03bc\u03bf\u03c5 \u03b9\u03bd\u03b1 \u03c4\u03b9 \u03bc\u03b5 \u03b5\u03b3\u03ba\u03b1\u03c4\u03b5\u03bb\u03b9\u03c0\u03b5\u03c2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n
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Forgiveness and Denial of Christ<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to David’s Forgiveness, Part 2<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Fear – Exodus, Part 4<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Romans, Part 3<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Romans, Part 34<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Romans, Part 40<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Romans, Part 87<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Fear – Exodus, Part 4<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Who Am I? Part 7<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Hannah’s Prayer, Part 6<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to Psalm 22, Part 1<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to The Lost Son of Perdition, Part 6<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
Back to The Lost Son of Perdition, Part 10<\/em><\/a><\/div>\n
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1<\/sup><\/a> Exodus 33:19b (NET) Table<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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2<\/sup><\/a> The NET parallel Greek<\/a> text had \u1f00\u03bb\u03bb\u1f70<\/a> here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus<\/a>, Byzantine Majority Text<\/a> and NA28<\/sup><\/a> had \u03b1\u03bb\u03bb<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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3<\/sup><\/a> The Stephanus Textus Receptus<\/a> and Byzantine Majority Text<\/a> had \u03bc\u03b1\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd<\/a> \u03b4\u03b5 \u03ba\u03b1\u03b9<\/a> (KJV: yea rather<\/em>) here, where the NET parallel Greek<\/a> text and NA28<\/sup><\/a> had simply \u03bc\u1fb6\u03bb\u03bb\u03bf\u03bd \u03b4\u1f72.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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4<\/sup><\/a> The NET parallel Greek<\/a> text, NA28<\/sup><\/a> and Byzantine Majority Text<\/a> had \u1f10\u03bd\u1f71\u03c4\u03b7\u03bd<\/a> here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus<\/a> had \u03b5\u03bd\u03bd\u03b1\u03c4\u03b7\u03bd<\/a> (KJV: ninth<\/em>).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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5<\/sup><\/a> The NET parallel Greek<\/a> text and NA28<\/sup><\/a> had \u03bb\u03b5\u03bc\u03b1<\/a> here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus<\/a> had \u03bb\u03b1\u03bc\u03b1<\/a> and the Byzantine Majority Text<\/a> had \u03bb\u03b9\u03bc\u03b1<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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6<\/sup><\/a> Matthew 27:46 (NET)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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7<\/sup><\/a> John 19:30 (NET)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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