Father, Son and Holy Spirit – Part 1

Posted on December 13, 2018 by admin

I am more or less willing to be a polytheist. Trinitarianism gives me a headache. I’m not quite sure how anyone deduced monotheism from, HEAR, O ISRAEL: THE HaShem (y^ehôvâh, יהוה) OUR GOD (ʼĕlôhı̂ym, אלהינו), THE HaShem (y^ehôvâh, יהוה) IS ONE^[1] anyway. The Hebrew word אלהינו (ʼĕlôhı̂ym), as I understand it, is a plural noun treated as a singular (i.e., the Gods is).

If the oneness of the אלהינו (ʼĕlôhı̂ym) meant that they were not warring among themselves, constantly working at cross-purposes like the gods of the pagan myths, then trinitarianism would be an unnecessary complication. But the impact the quotation of Psalm 110:1 in Hebrews had on me as I read it this time compels me to consider something much closer to trinitarianism than polytheism: The LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה) said unto my Lord (ʼâdôn, לאדני), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.^[2]

But when this priest^[3] had offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, the anonymous author of Hebrews wrote, he sat down at the right hand of God, where he is now waiting until his enemies are made a footstool for his feet.^[4] This made it obvious that the resurrected and ascended Jesus was signified by לאדני (ʼâdôn) in Psalm 110:1, not יהוה (y^ehôvâh). As a Bible-believing polytheist I would be forced to accept that Jesus is not יהוה (y^ehôvâh) according to this Psalm.

The insight that Jesus is יהוה (y^ehôvâh) come in human flesh has revolutionized my thinking about, not to mention my feeling for, יהוה (y^ehôvâh). I won’t give it up easily. If I can believe, for instance, that the him in Yet it pleased the LORD (y^ehôvâh, ויהוה) to bruise him^[5] was effectively Himself, it presages Jesus’ own words: I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will.^[6] If, however, I must believe that him was someone else יהוה (y^ehôvâh) abused, an only begotten Son in fact, and He wants to treat me as a son…well, those are fighting words.

As I think of it now, for foolish Gentiles to see one like the Son of man [returning] with the clouds of heaven^[7] and then follow their desperate leaders in a short-lived insurrection will require a hardening much like the hardening that fortified religious minds in Jerusalem to seek the death of a man who healed the sick and raised the dead. So rather than be hardened by a simplistic polytheism I plan to endure the headache of something more like trinitarianism.

The first occurrence of ואדני (ʼâdôn) in Genesis was from the lips of Sarah: After I am worn out will I have pleasure, especially when my husband is old too?^[8] Husband (ʼâdôn, ואדני) was lord in the Tanakh and κύριός in the Septuagint. Peter made much of this single occurrence of ʼâdôn (1 Peter 3:5, 6 NET):

For in the same way the holy women who hoped in^[9] God^[10] long ago adorned themselves by being subject to their husbands, like Sarah who obeyed Abraham, calling him lord (κύριον, a form of κύριος). You become her children when you do what is good and have no fear in doing so.

Surely the relevant relationship in Sarah’s mind as she laughed, contemplated, probably doubted the possibility of having her first child in her old age was that of husband as the NET translators suggested. Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion: And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.^[11]

The Hebrew word translated LORD here was יהוה (y^ehôvâh), κύριος in Greek in the Septuagint. The Hebrew word translated for I am married was בעלתי (bâʽal). Like אדני (ʼâdôn) בעלתי (bâʽal) can mean master. This is what the rabbis keyed on when they chose κατακυριεύσω (a form of κατακυριεύω) to translate בעלתי (bâʽal) into Greek. But Jesus called them and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over (κατακυριεύουσιν, another form of κατακυριεύω) them, and those in high positions use their authority over them. It^[12] must not be this way among you!”^[13] In fact, the man who beat [some Jewish exorcists] into submission^[14] (κατακυριεύσας, another form of κατακυριεύω)…was possessed by [an] evil spirit,^[15] not the Spirit of God.

I think the translators of the Tanakh keyed on the relevant relationship the Holy Spirit intended, for later the same passage reads: Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.^[16] Again, LORD was the translation of יהוה (y^ehôvâh), κύριος in the Septuagint. The word translated husband was מרעה (rêaʽ). It was translated συνόντα (a form of σύνειμι) by the rabbis in the Septuagint (Luke 9:18-22 NET).

Once when Jesus was praying by himself, and his disciples were nearby (συνῆσαν, another form of σύνειμι), he asked them, “Who do the crowds say that I am?” They answered,^[17] “John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others that one of the prophets of long ago has risen.” Then he said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter^[18] answered, “The Christ of God.” But he forcefully commanded them not to tell^[19] this to anyone, saying, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests, and experts in the law, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.”^[20]

The LORD was determined to do good (Jeremiah 3:16-18) to Israel but questioned how since they had treacherously departed from Him: But I said, How shall I put thee among the children, and give thee a pleasant land, a goodly heritage of the hosts of nations? ^[21] Jesus explained His answer—and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me^[22]—to Nicodemus (John 3:5-7 NET).

I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, “You must all be born from above.”

So, how is one born from above? Receive Jesus. Actually, him in to all who have received him referred back to the Word. I was among the slowest of the slow to realize that the Word was Jesus. Here is John’s description of Jesus as the Word of God (John 1:1-5, 10-13 NET):

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was fully God. The Word was with God in the beginning. All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. In him was life, and the life was the light of mankind. And the light shines on in the darkness, but the darkness has not mastered it…

He was in the world, and the world was created by him, but the world did not recognize him. He came to what was his own, but his own people did not receive him. But to all who have received him – those who believe in his name – he has given the right to become God’s children – children not born by human parents or by human desire or a husband’s decision, but by God.

So, how does the right (John 8:40-45) to become God’s children, the fact that Thou shalt call [Him], My father ensure that thou shalt not turn away from him? Therefore, Peter concluded his first Gospel proclamation, let all the house of Israel know beyond a doubt that God has made this Jesus whom you crucified both Lord and Christ^[23] (Acts 2:37, 38 NET).

Now when they heard this, they were acutely distressed and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “What should we do, brothers?” Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

We know that everyone fathered by God does not sin, John wrote those who had received Jesus, but God protects the one he has fathered, and the evil one cannot touch him. We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us insight to know him who is true, and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. This one is the true God and eternal life.^[24]

So then, brothers and sisters, Paul wrote to those in Rome who believed that God has made this Jesus whom [they] crucified both Lord and Christ, who had repented and been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of [their] sins, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh (for if you live according to the flesh, you will die), but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live. For all who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, by whom we cry, “Abba, Father.”^[25]

This explains why the ark of the covenant of the Lord will no longer come to mind (Jeremiah 3:16-18 Tanakh):

And it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more.

At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem: neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart. In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:^[26]

Here again, husband was בעלתי (bâʽal) and LORD was יהוה (y^ehôvâh) in the Hebrew (Masoretic text), but the rabbis chose ἠμέλησα (a form of ἀμελέω) in the Septuagint. The author of Hebrews quoted it (Hebrews 8:9 NET):

It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I had no regard (ἠμέλησα, a form of ἀμελέω) for them, says the Lord.

The NET parallel Greek text, Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text were identical here.

Hebrews 8:9 (NET Parallel Greek)	Hebrews 8:9 (Stephanus Textus Receptus)	Hebrews 8:9 (Byzantine Majority Text)
οὐ κατὰ τὴν διαθήκην, ἣν ἐποίησα τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ ἐπιλαβομένου μου τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν ἐξαγαγεῖν αὐτοὺς ἐκ γῆς Ἀιγύπτου, ὅτι αὐτοὶ οὐκ ἐνέμειναν ἐν τῇ διαθήκῃ μου, καγὼ ἠμέλησα αὐτῶν, λέγει κύριος	ου κατα την διαθηκην ην εποιησα τοις πατρασιν αυτων εν ημερα επιλαβομενου μου της χειρος αυτων εξαγαγειν αυτους εκ γης αιγυπτου οτι αυτοι ουκ ενεμειναν εν τη διαθηκη μου καγω ημελησα αυτων λεγει κυριος	ου κατα την διαθηκην ην εποιησα τοις πατρασιν αυτων εν ημερα επιλαβομενου μου της χειρος αυτων εξαγαγειν αυτους εκ γης αιγυπτου οτι αυτοι ουκ ενεμειναν εν τη διαθηκη μου καγω ημελησα αυτων λεγει κυριος

There were three relatively insignificant differences compared to the BLB and Elpenor versions of the Septuagint.

Hebrews 8:9 (NET Parallel Greek)	Jeremiah 31:32 (Septuagint BLB)	Jeremiah 38:32 (Septuagint Elpenor)
οὐ κατὰ τὴν διαθήκην, ἣν ἐποίησα τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ ἐπιλαβομένου μου τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν ἐξαγαγεῖν αὐτοὺς ἐκ γῆς Ἀιγύπτου, ὅτι αὐτοὶ οὐκ ἐνέμειναν ἐν τῇ διαθήκῃ μου, καγὼ ἠμέλησα αὐτῶν, λέγει κύριος	οὐ κατὰ τὴν διαθήκην ἣν διεθέμην τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ ἐπιλαβομένου μου τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν ἐξαγαγεῖν αὐτοὺς ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου ὅτι αὐτοὶ οὐκ ἐνέμειναν ἐν τῇ διαθήκῃ μου καὶ ἐγὼ ἠμέλησα αὐτῶν φησὶν κύριος	οὐ κατὰ τὴν διαθήκην, ἣν διεθέμην τοῖς πατράσιν αὐτῶν ἐν ἡμέρᾳ ἐπιλαβομένου μου τῆς χειρὸς αὐτῶν ἐξαγαγεῖν αὐτοὺς ἐκ γῆς Αἰγύπτου, ὅτι αὐτοὶ οὐκ ἐνέμειναν ἐν τῇ διαθήκῃ μου, καὶ ἐγὼ ἠμέλησα αὐτῶν, φησὶ Κύριος

If בעלתי (bâʽal) was not original in Jeremiah 31:32, it was found in Isaiah, though again it was translated κύριος (Lord) in the Septuagint (Isaiah 54:4-7 Tanakh):

Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. For thy Maker is thine husband (bâʽal, בעליך); the LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה) of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. For the LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה) hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her. And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt. And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה), that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali (baʽălı̂y, בעלי). For I will take away the names of Baalim (baʽal, הבעלים) out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.^[27]

Here the Hebrew word אישי (ʼı̂ysh) was transliterated as a proper name Ishi (also in the KJV). The rabbis translated it ἀνήρ in the Septuagint. And the man (ʼâdâm, האדם; Septuagint: Αδαμ) said: ‘This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man (ʼı̂ysh, מאיש; Septuagint: ἀνδρὸς, a form of ἀνήρ).’ Therefore shall a man (ʼı̂ysh, איש; Septuagint: ἄνθρωπος) leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh [Table].^[28] Most English Bibles that translate rather than transliterate Ishi render it my husband, including the New English Translation of the Septuagint.

Matthew (9:15), Mark (2:19, 20) and Luke (5:34, 35) all recounted Jesus reference to Himself as the bridegroom (νυμφίος). John (3:25-30) recalled that John the Baptist also called Jesus the bridegroom. The prophet Hosea continued quoting y^ehôvâh (Hosea 2:18-23 Tanakh):

And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely. And I will betroth (ʼâraś, וארשׁתיך; Septuagint: μνηστεύσομαί, a form of μνηστεύω) thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth (ʼâraś, וארשׁתיך; Septuagint: μνηστεύσομαί, a form of μνηστεύω) thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. I will even betroth (ʼâraś, וארשׁתיך; Septuagint: μνηστεύσομαί, a form of μνηστεύω) thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה).

And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD (y^ehôvâh, יהוה), I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth; And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel. And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Tables comparing Hebrews 10:12; 1 Peter 3:5; Matthew 20:26; Acts 19:16 and Luke 9:19-22 in the NET and KJV follow.

Hebrews 10:12 (NET)	Hebrews 10:12 (KJV)
But when this priest had offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, he sat down at the right hand of God,	But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
οὗτος δὲ μίαν ὑπὲρ ἁμαρτιῶν προσενέγκας θυσίαν εἰς τὸ διηνεκὲς ἐκάθισεν ἐν δεξιᾷ τοῦ θεοῦ	αυτος δε μιαν υπερ αμαρτιων προσενεγκας θυσιαν εις το διηνεκες εκαθισεν εν δεξια του θεου	αυτος δε μιαν υπερ αμαρτιων προσενεγκας θυσιαν εις το διηνεκες εκαθισεν εν δεξια του θεου

1 Peter 3:5 (NET)	1 Peter 3:5 (KJV)
For in the same way the holy women who hoped in God long ago adorned themselves by being subject to their husbands,	For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
οὕτως γάρ ποτε καὶ αἱ ἅγιαι γυναῖκες αἱ ἐλπίζουσαι εἰς θεὸν ἐκόσμουν ἑαυτάς ὑποτασσόμεναι τοῖς ἰδίοις ἀνδράσιν	ουτως γαρ ποτε και αι αγιαι γυναικες αι ελπιζουσαι επι τον θεον εκοσμουν εαυτας υποτασσομεναι τοις ιδιοις ανδρασιν	ουτως γαρ ποτε και αι αγιαι γυναικες αι ελπιζουσαι επι θεον εκοσμουν εαυτας υποτασσομεναι τοις ιδιοις ανδρασιν

Matthew 20:26 (NET)	Matthew 20:26 (KJV)
It must not be this way among you! Instead whoever wants to be great among you must be your servant,	But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
οὐχ οὕτως \|ἔσται\| ἐν ὑμῖν, ἀλλ᾿ ὃς \|ἐὰν\| θέλῃ ἐν ὑμῖν μέγας γενέσθαι ἔσται ὑμῶν διάκονος	ουχ ουτως δε εσται εν υμιν αλλ ος εαν θελη εν υμιν μεγας γενεσθαι εστω υμων διακονος	ουχ ουτως δε εσται εν υμιν αλλ ος εαν θελη εν υμιν μεγας γενεσθαι εσται υμων διακονος

Acts 19:16 (NET)	Acts 19:16 (KJV)
Then the man who was possessed by the evil spirit jumped on them and beat them all into submission. He prevailed against them so that they fled from that house naked and wounded.	And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
καὶ ἐφαλόμενος ὁ ἄνθρωπος ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς ἐν ᾧ ἦν τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ πονηρόν, κατακυριεύσας ἀμφοτέρων ἴσχυσεν κατ᾿ αὐτῶν ὥστε γυμνοὺς καὶ τετραυματισμένους ἐκφυγεῖν ἐκ τοῦ οἴκου ἐκείνου	και εφαλλομενος επ αυτους ο ανθρωπος εν ω ην το πνευμα το πονηρον και κατακυριευσας αυτων ισχυσεν κατ αυτων ωστε γυμνους και τετραυματισμενους εκφυγειν εκ του οικου εκεινου	και εφαλλομενος επ αυτους ο ανθρωπος εν ω ην το πνευμα το πονηρον και κατακυριευσαν αυτων ισχυσεν κατ αυτων ωστε γυμνους και τετραυματισμενους εκφυγειν εκ του οικου εκεινου

Luke 9:19-22 (NET)	Luke 9:19-22 (KJV)
They answered, “John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others that one of the prophets of long ago has risen.”	They answering said, John the Baptist; but some say, Elias; and others say, that one of the old prophets is risen again.

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
οἱ δὲ ἀποκριθέντες εἶπαν Ἰωάννην τὸν βαπτιστήν, ἄλλοι δὲ Ἠλίαν, ἄλλοι δὲ ὅτι προφήτης τις τῶν ἀρχαίων ἀνέστη	οι δε αποκριθεντες ειπον ιωαννην τον βαπτιστην αλλοι δε ηλιαν αλλοι δε οτι προφητης τις των αρχαιων ανεστη	οι δε αποκριθεντες ειπον ιωαννην τον βαπτιστην αλλοι δε ηλιαν αλλοι δε οτι προφητης τις των αρχαιων ανεστη

Then he said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered, “The Christ of God.”

He said unto them, But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God.

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
εἶπεν δὲ αὐτοῖς· ὑμεῖς δὲ τίνα με λέγετε εἶναι; Πέτρος δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν· τὸν χριστὸν τοῦ θεοῦ	ειπεν δε αυτοις υμεις δε τινα με λεγετε ειναι αποκριθεις δε ο πετρος ειπεν τον χριστον του θεου	ειπεν δε αυτοις υμεις δε τινα με λεγετε ειναι αποκριθεις δε ο πετρος ειπεν τον χριστον του θεου

But he forcefully commanded them not to tell this to anyone,

And he straitly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing;

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
ὁ δὲ ἐπιτιμήσας αὐτοῖς παρήγγειλεν μηδενὶ λέγειν τοῦτο	ο δε επιτιμησας αυτοις παρηγγειλεν μηδενι ειπειν τουτο	ο δε επιτιμησας αυτοις παρηγγειλεν μηδενι ειπειν τουτο

saying, “The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, chief priests, and experts in the law, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.”

Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day.

NET Parallel Greek	Stephanus Textus Receptus	Byzantine Majority Text
εἰπων ὅτι δεῖ τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ ἀνθρώπου πολλὰ παθεῖν καὶ ἀποδοκιμασθῆναι ἀπὸ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων καὶ ἀρχιερέων καὶ γραμματέων καὶ ἀποκτανθῆναι καὶ τῇ τρίτῃ ἡμέρᾳ ἐγερθῆναι	ειπων οτι δει τον υιον του ανθρωπου πολλα παθειν και αποδοκιμασθηναι απο των πρεσβυτερων και αρχιερεων και γραμματεων και αποκτανθηναι και τη τριτη ημερα εγερθηναι	ειπων οτι δει τον υιον του ανθρωπου πολλα παθειν και αποδοκιμασθηναι απο των πρεσβυτερων και αρχιερεων και γραμματεων και αποκτανθηναι και τη τριτη ημερα αναστηναι

Father, Son and Holy Spirit – Part 2

Back to Isaiah 53:10-12, Part 2

^[1] Deuteronomy 6:4 (Tanakh)

^[2] Psalm 110:1 (Tanakh)

^[3] The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ had οὗτος here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had αυτος (KJV: this man).

^[4] Hebrews 10:12, 13 (NET)

^[5] Isaiah 53:10a (Tanakh)

^[6] John 10:17b, 18a (NET)

^[7] Daniel 7:13b (Tanakh) The Greek word translated returning in Revelation 1:7 (NET) was ἔρχεται, while the Hebrew word translated came in Daniel 7:13 (Tanakh) was translated ἐρχόμενος in the Septuagint. Both are forms of ἔρχομαι. ἐρχόμενος: Matthew 3:11; 11:2-6; 21:6-11; 23:37-39.

^[8] Genesis 18:12 (NET)

^[9] The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ had εἰς here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had επι.

^[10] The Stephanus Textus Receptus had the article τον preceding God. The NET parallel Greek text, NA²⁸ and Byzantine Majority Text did not.

^[11] Jeremiah 3:14, 15 (Tanakh)

^[12] The Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had δε (KJV: But). The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ did not.

^[13] Matthew 20:25, 26a (NET)

^[14] The NET parallel Greek text, NA²⁸ and Stephanus Textus Receptus had κατακυριεύσας here, where the Byzantine Majority Text had κατακυριευσαν.

^[15] Acts 19:16 (NET)

^[16] Jeremiah 3:20 (Tanakh)

^[17] The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ had εἶπαν here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had ειπον (KJV: said).

^[18] The Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had the article ο preceding Peter. The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ did not.

^[19] The NET parallel Greek text and NA²⁸ had λέγειν here, where the Stephanus Textus Receptus and Byzantine Majority Text had ειπειν.

^[20] The NET parallel Greek text, NA²⁸ and Stephanus Textus Receptus had ἐγερθῆναι here, where the Byzantine Majority Text had αναστηναι.

^[21] Jeremiah 3:19a (Tanakh)

^[22] Jeremiah 3:19b (Tanakh)

^[23] Acts 2:36 (NET)

^[24] 1 John 5:18-20 (NET) Table1, Table2

^[25] Romans 8:12-15 (NET)

^[26] Jeremiah 31:31, 32 (Tanakh)

^[27] Hosea 2:14-17 (Tanakh) Table1 Table2 Table3

^[28] Genesis 2:23, 24 (Tanakh)

David’s Forgiveness, Part 8

Posted on August 22, 2012 by admin

When I studied the Bible looking for rules to obey I was the project, and I was in charge of my reform efforts. I determined which rules to obey and which didn’t apply to me. I didn’t necessarily see it that way at the time. I thought I was doing it all for God’s sake. But when I began to study the Bible to know Him, and Jesus Christ whom He sent,¹ I was distracted. I couldn’t stay so focused on myself. Oh, I’m still the project. But now I’m God’s project and He is in charge of the reform effort. Here is a case in point.

In the last essay I began to consider whether I could believe that David exercised some form of Do not judge so that you will not be judged² with his son when he suspected something amiss in Absalom’s request regarding Amnon. I wondered if the Lord regarded that as something after his own heart.³ But the more I thought about it, the more I disliked the idea. In my resistance to it I was unmasked. The main reason I don’t want to believe that David exercised some form of Do not judge so that you will not be judged with Absalom was that it didn’t work. Absalom killed Amnon anyway. And I know the rest of the story. It didn’t even work in the long run on Absalom. It didn’t deliver the goods.

I don’t want to be like [my] Father in heaven, [who] causes the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous,⁴ not really, not if it doesn’t work out. And I want to see it work out. I don’t want to walk by faith on something like this. And, frankly, I didn’t know that about myself when I began the previous essay. I don’t know how to change that about myself now.

I know that I used to object to not judging others because those “others” would think they were putting something over on me, that I didn’t know what they were really thinking. They would think I was stupid, and I’d, you know, come off like a dolt. I probably still feel that way somewhere inside, considering the way I analyzed David’s actions or inactions. I just can’t muster whatever it would take to use that as an objection anymore.

Whether Absalom thought he was right to kill Amnon or not, once the deed was done he fled and went to King Talmai son of Ammihud of Geshur,⁵ his mother Maacah’s father. David grieved for another firstborn son, his actual firstborn, Amnon born to Ahinoam the Jezreelite. Absalom was banished to Geshur for three years. David longed to go to Absalom, for he had since been consoled over the death of Amnon.⁶

This longing was certainly something dear to God’s heart. [Addendum 3/12/2021: In the Septuagint this is described as the easing of a longing against Absalom.] Ephraim is my firstborn son,⁷ God spoke through Jeremiah. This is the name used by the prophets to personify the northern kingdom of Israel that rebelled against Solomon’s son Rehoboam. Ephraim has attached himself to idols; Do not go near him!⁸ The Lord had a lot to say about Ephraim.

I know Ephraim all too well; the evil of Israel is not hidden from me. For you have engaged in prostitution (Septuagint: ἐξεπόρνευσεν, a form of ἐκπορνεύω), O Ephraim; Israel has defiled itself. Their wicked deeds do not allow them to return to their God; because a spirit of idolatry (Septuagint: πορνείας) controls their heart, and they do not acknowledge the Lord.⁹ Within sixty-five years Ephraim will no longer exist as a nation.¹⁰ Ephraim will be ruined in the day of judgment!¹¹ Ephraim will be oppressed, crushed under judgment, because he was determined to pursue worthless idols.¹²

Whenever I want to heal Israel, the Lord continued, the sin of Ephraim is revealed, and the evil deeds of Samaria [the capital of the northern kingdom] are exposed. For they do what is wrong; thieves break into houses, and gangs rob people out in the streets. They do not realize that I remember all of their wicked deeds. Their evil deeds have now surrounded them; their sinful deeds are always before me.¹³ Although Ephraim has built many altars for sin offerings, these have become altars for sinning! I spelled out my law for him in great detail, but they regard it as something totally unknown to them!¹⁴

I can’t imagine a parent who can’t hear God’s hurt and yearning, it was I who led Ephraim, I took them by the arm; but they did not acknowledge that I had healed them.¹⁵ How can I give you up, O Ephraim? How can I surrender you, O Israel?…I have had a change of heart! All my tender compassions are aroused!¹⁶

Just as Jonadab couldn’t bear to see Amnon’s longing without offering him advice to ensnare Tamar,¹⁷ Joab was so moved by David’s longing for Absalom he hired an actress. Pretend to be in mourning, Joab instructed her, and put on garments for mourning. Don’t anoint yourself with oil. Instead, act like a woman who has been mourning for the dead for some time. Go to the king and speak to him in the following fashion.¹⁸

The actress claimed to be a widow who had two sons. They got into a fight out in the field where no one could separate them. One killed the other. Now the entire family has risen up against your servant, saying, “Turn over the one who struck down his brother, so that we can execute him and avenge the death of his brother whom he killed.”¹⁹ There would be no one then to carry on the name of her husband. Go to your home, David said. I will give instructions concerning your situation.²⁰

The actress wasn’t satisfied with his answer. She pressed him further, and David said, Bring to me whoever speaks to you, and he won’t bother you again!²¹ Still, the actress wasn’t satisfied, In that case, let the king invoke the name of the Lord your God so that the avenger of blood may not kill! She wanted David to swear an oath. So David said, As surely as the Lord lives, not a single hair of your son’s head will fall to the ground.²² Then she blamed David for Absalom’s exile (2 Samuel 14:13-17 NET).

Why have you devised something like this against God’s people? When the king speaks in this fashion, he makes himself guilty, for the king has not brought back the one he has banished. Certainly we must die, and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again. But God does not take away life; instead he devises ways for the banished to be restored. I have now come to speak with my lord the king about this matter, because the people have made me fearful. But your servant said, “I will speak to the king! Perhaps the king will do what his female servant asks. Yes! The king may listen and deliver his female servant from the hand of the man who seeks to remove both me and my son from the inheritance God has given us!” So your servant said, “May the word of my lord the king be my security, for my lord the king is like the angel of God when it comes to deciding between right and wrong! May the Lord your God be with you!”

Joab schemed with the actress to trap and trick David as Nathan had done. Nathan was sent by God so that David would acknowledge and repent of his sin. The actress was sent by Joab so that David would follow his longing for Absalom to its logical conclusion. Did Joab put you up to all of this?²³ David asked the actress. When he learned the truth he wasn’t angry with Joab or the actress. He said to Joab, All right! I will do this thing! Go and bring back the young man Absalom!²⁴

Again, though David may appear foolish, he was a man after God’s own heart. He had an uncanny ability to see through all the commandments, laws, crimes and punishments to God’s loyal love and great compassion. A thousand years or so before Jesus spoke the parable, David demonstrated that he was not like the evil slave who was forgiven a great debt by his Lord but would not forgive his fellow slave a lesser debt. I forgave you all that debt because you begged me! Should you not have shown mercy to your fellow slave, just as I showed it to you?²⁵

Addendum: March 13, 2021
Tables comparing 2 Samuel 13:37; 13:39; Jeremiah 31:9; Hosea 4:17; 5:3; 5:4; Isaiah 7:8; Hosea 5:9; 5:11; 7:1; 7:2; 8:11; 8:12; 11:3; 11:8; 2 Samuel 14:2; 14:3; 14:7; 14:8; 14:10; 14:11; 14:13; 14:14; 14:15; 14:16; 14:17; 14:19 and 14:21 in the Tanakh, KJV and NET, and tables comparing 2 Samuel (Reigns, Kings) 13:37; 13:39; Jeremiah 31:9 (38:9); Hosea 4:17; 5:3; 5:4; Isaiah 7:8; Hosea 5:9; 5:11; 7:1; 7:2; 8:11; 8:12; 11:3; 11:8; 2 Samuel (Reigns, Kings) 14:2; 14:3; 14:7; 14:8; 14:10; 14:11; 14:13; 14:14; 14:15; 14:16; 14:17; 14:19 and 14:21 in the Septuagint (BLB and Elpenor) follow.

2 Samuel 13:37 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 13:37 (KJV)	2 Samuel 13:37 (NET)
But Absalom fled, and went to Talmai the son of Ammihud, king of Geshur. And David mourned for his son every day.	But Absalom fled, and went to Talmai, the son of Ammihud, king of Geshur. And David mourned for his son every day.	But Absalom fled and went to King Talmai son of Ammihud of Geshur. And David grieved over his son every day.

2 Samuel 13:37 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 13:37 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ Αβεσσαλωμ ἔφυγεν καὶ ἐπορεύθη πρὸς Θολμαι υἱὸν Εμιουδ βασιλέα Γεδσουρ εἰς γῆν Μαχαδ καὶ ἐπένθησεν ὁ βασιλεὺς Δαυιδ ἐπὶ τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας	καὶ ᾿Αβεσσαλὼμ ἔφυγε καὶ ἐπορεύθη πρὸς Θολμὶ υἱὸν ᾿Εμιοὺδ βασιλέα Γεδσοὺρ εἰς γῆν Μαχάδ. καὶ ἐπένθησεν ὁ βασιλεὺς Δαυὶδ ἐπὶ τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας
2 Reigns 13:37 (NETS)	2 Kings 13:37 (English Elpenor)
And Abessalom fled and went to Tholmai son of Emioud, king of Gedsour, to the land of Machad. And King Dauid mourned for his son all the days.	But Abessalom fled, and went to Tholmi son of Emiud the king of Gedsur to the land of Chamaachad: and king David mourned for his son continually.

2 Samuel 13:39 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 13:39 (KJV)	2 Samuel 13:39 (NET)
And the soul of king David failed with longing for Absalom; for he was comforted concerning Amnon, seeing he was dead.	And the soul of king David longed to go forth unto Absalom: for he was comforted concerning Amnon, seeing he was dead.	The king longed to go to Absalom, for he had since been consoled over the death of Amnon.

2 Samuel 13:39 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 13:39 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ ἐκόπασεν τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ βασιλέως τοῦ ἐξελθεῗν ὀπίσω Αβεσσαλωμ ὅτι παρεκλήθη ἐπὶ Αμνων ὅτι ἀπέθανεν	καὶ ἐκόπασε τὸ πνεῦμα τοῦ βασιλέως τοῦ ἐξελθεῖν ὀπίσω ᾿Αβεσσαλώμ, ὅτι παρεκλήθη ἐπὶ ᾿Αμνὼν ὅτι ἀπέθανε
2 Reigns 13:39 (NETS)	2 Kings 13:39 (English Elpenor)
And the spirit of the king ceased to go after Abessalom, for he was consoled over Amnon, that he had died.	And king David ceased to go out after Abessalom, for he was comforted concerning Amnon, touching his death.

Jeremiah 31:9 (Tanakh)	Jeremiah 31:9 (KJV)	Jeremiah 31:9 (NET)
They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.	They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.	They will come back shedding tears of contrition. I will bring them back praying prayers of repentance. I will lead them besides streams of water, along smooth paths where they will never stumble. I will do this because I am Israel’s father; Ephraim is my firstborn son.’

Jeremiah 31:9 (Septuagint BLB)	Jeremiah 38:9 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ἐν κλαυθμῷ ἐξῆλθον καὶ ἐν παρακλήσει ἀνάξω αὐτοὺς αὐλίζων ἐπὶ διώρυγας ὑδάτων ἐν ὁδῷ ὀρθῇ καὶ οὐ μὴ πλανηθῶσιν ἐν αὐτῇ ὅτι ἐγενόμην τῷ Ισραηλ εἰς πατέρα καὶ Εφραιμ πρωτότοκός μού ἐστιν	ἐν κλαυθμῷ ἐξῆλθον, καὶ ἐν παρακλήσει ἀνάξω αὐτοὺς αὐλίζων ἐπὶ διώρυγας ὑδάτων ἐν ὁδῷ ὀρθῇ, καὶ οὐ μὴ πλανηθῶσιν ἐν αὐτῇ· ὅτι ἐγενόμην τῷ ᾿Ισραὴλ εἰς πατέρα, καὶ ᾿Εφραὶμ πρωτότοκός μού ἐστιν
Jeremiah 38:9 (NETS)	Jeremiah 38:9 (English Elpenor)
With weeping they went out, and with consolation I will bring them up, making them lodge by canals of waters in a straight road, and they shall not wander in it, because I became a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.	They went forth with weeping, and I will bring them back with consolation, causing them to lodge by the channels of waters in a straight way, and they shall not err in it: for I am become a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my first-born.

Hosea 4:17 (Tanakh)	Hosea 4:17 (KJV)	Hosea 4:17 (NET)
Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.	Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone.	Ephraim has attached himself to idols; Do not go near him!

Hosea 4:17 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 4:17 (Septuagint Elpenor)
μέτοχος εἰδώλων Εφραιμ ἔθηκεν ἑαυτῷ σκάνδαλα	μέτοχος εἰδώλων ᾿Εφραὶμ ἔθηκεν ἑαυτῷ σκάνδαλα,
Hosea 4:17 (NETS)	Hosea 4:17 (English Elpenor)
Ephraim, an associate of idols, placed stumbling blocks against himself.	Ephraim, joined with idols, has laid stumbling-blocks in his own way.

Hosea 5:3 (Tanakh)	Hosea 5:3 (KJV)	Hosea 5:3 (NET)
I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou committest whoredom, and Israel is defiled.	I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hid from me: for now, O Ephraim, thou committest whoredom, and Israel is defiled.	I know Ephraim all too well; the evil of Israel is not hidden from me. For you have engaged in prostitution, O Ephraim; Israel has defiled itself.

Hosea 5:3 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 5:3 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ἐγὼ ἔγνων τὸν Εφραιμ καὶ Ισραηλ οὐκ ἄπεστιν ἀπ᾽ ἐμοῦ διότι νῦν ἐξεπόρνευσεν Εφραιμ ἐμιάνθη Ισραηλ	ἐγὼ ἔγνων τὸν ᾿Εφραίμ, καὶ ᾿Ισραὴλ οὐκ ἀπέστη ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ· διότι νῦν ἐξεπόρνευσεν ᾿Εφραίμ, ἐμιάνθη ᾿Ισραήλ
Hosea 5:3 (NETS)	Hosea 5:3 (English Elpenor)
I knew Ephraim, and Israel is not far from me; for now Ephraim has gone after whores; Israel has been defiled.	I know Ephraim, and Israel is not far from me: for now Ephraim has gone grievously a-whoring, Israel is defiled.

Hosea 5:4 (Tanakh)	Hosea 5:4 (KJV)	Hosea 5:4 (NET)
They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the LORD.	They will not frame their doings to turn unto their God: for the spirit of whoredoms is in the midst of them, and they have not known the LORD.	Their wicked deeds do not allow them to return to their God; for a spirit of idolatry is in them, and they do not acknowledge the Lord.

Hosea 5:4 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 5:4 (Septuagint Elpenor)
οὐκ ἔδωκαν τὰ διαβούλια αὐτῶν τοῦ ἐπιστρέψαι πρὸς τὸν θεὸν αὐτῶν ὅτι πνεῦμα πορνείας ἐν αὐτοῗς ἐστιν τὸν δὲ κύριον οὐκ ἐπέγνωσαν	οὐκ ἔδωκαν τὰ διαβούλια αὐτῶν τοῦ ἐπιστρέψαι πρὸς τὸν Θεὸν αὐτῶν, ὅτι πνεῦμα πορνείας ἐν αὐτοῖς ἐστι, τὸν δὲ Κύριον οὐκ ἐπέγνωσαν
Hosea 5:4 (NETS)	Hosea 5:4 (English Elpenor)
Their deliberations did not grant them to turn to their God, because a spirit of whoredom is within them, and they did not know the Lord.	They have not framed their counsels to return to their God, for the spirit of fornication is in them, and they have not known the Lord.

Isaiah 7:8 (Tanakh)	Isaiah 7:8 (KJV)	Isaiah 7:8 (NET)
For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.	For the head of Syria is Damascus, and the head of Damascus is Rezin; and within threescore and five years shall Ephraim be broken, that it be not a people.	For Syria’s leader is Damascus, and the leader of Damascus is Rezin. Within 65 years Ephraim will no longer exist as a nation.

Isaiah 7:8 (Septuagint BLB)	Isaiah 7:8 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ἀλλ᾽ ἡ κεφαλὴ Αραμ Δαμασκός ἀλλ᾽ ἔτι ἑξήκοντα καὶ πέντε ἐτῶν ἐκλείψει ἡ βασιλεία Εφραιμ ἀπὸ λαοῦ	ἀλλ᾿ ἡ κεφαλὴ ᾿Αρὰμ Δαμασκὸς καὶ ἡ κεφαλὴ Δαμασκοῦ Ῥασεὶμ – ἀλλ᾿ ἔτι ἑξήκοντα καὶ πέντε ἐτῶν ἐκλείψει ἡ βασιλεία ᾿Εφραὶμ ἀπὸ λαοῦ
Isaiah 7:8 (NETS)	Isaiah 7:8 (English Elpenor)
But the head of Aram is Damascus, but yet within sixty-five years the kingdom of Ephraim will cease from being people.	But the head of Aram is Damascus, and the head of Damascus, Rasim; and yet within sixty and five years the kingdom of Ephraim shall cease from [being] a people.

Hosea 5:9 (Tanakh)	Hosea 5:9 (KJV)	Hosea 5:9 (NET)
Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.	Ephraim shall be desolate in the day of rebuke: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be.	Ephraim will be ruined in the day of judgment. What I am declaring to the tribes of Israel will certainly take place!

Hosea 5:9 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 5:9 (Septuagint Elpenor)
Εφραιμ εἰς ἀφανισμὸν ἐγένετο ἐν ἡμέραις ἐλέγχου ἐν ταῗς φυλαῗς τοῦ Ισραηλ ἔδειξα πιστά	Εφραὶμ εἰς ἀφανισμὸν ἐγένετο ἐν ἡμέραις ἐλέγχου· ἐν ταῖς φυλαῖς τοῦ ᾿Ισραὴλ ἔδειξα πιστά
Hosea 5:9 (NETS)	Hosea 5:9 (English Elpenor)
Ephraim has become an annihilation in the days of reproof; among the tribes of Israel, I have demonstrated things that are sure.	Ephraim has come to nought in the days of reproof: in the tribes of Israel I have shown faithful [dealings].

Hosea 5:11 (Tanakh)	Hosea 5:11 (KJV)	Hosea 5:11 (NET)
Ephraim is oppressed and broken in judgment, because he willingly walked after the commandment.	Ephraim is oppressed and broken in judgment, because he willingly walked after the commandment.	Ephraim will be oppressed, crushed under judgment, because he was determined to pursue worthless idols.

Hosea 5:11 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 5:11 (Septuagint Elpenor)
κατεδυνάστευσεν Εφραιμ τὸν ἀντίδικον αὐτοῦ κατεπάτησεν κρίμα ὅτι ἤρξατο πορεύεσθαι ὀπίσω τῶν ματαίων	κατεδυνάστευσεν ᾿Εφραὶμ τὸν ἀντίδικον αὐτοῦ, κατεπάτησε κρίμα, ὅτι ἤρξατο πορεύεσθαι ὀπίσω τῶν ματαίων
Hosea 5:11 (NETS)	Hosea 5:11 (English Elpenor)
Ephraim has overpowered his opponent; he has trampled judgment, because he began to go after the vain things.	Ephraim has come to nought in the days of reproof: in the tribes of Israel I have shown faithful [dealings].

Hosea 7:1 (Tanakh)	Hosea 7:1 (KJV)	Hosea 7:1 (NET)
When I would have healed Israel, then the iniquity of Ephraim was discovered, and the wickedness of Samaria: for they commit falsehood; and the thief cometh in, and the troop of robbers spoileth without.	When I would have healed Israel, then the iniquity of Ephraim was discovered, and the wickedness of Samaria: for they commit falsehood; and the thief cometh in, and the troop of robbers spoileth without.	whenever I want to heal Israel, the sin of Ephraim is revealed, and the evil deeds of Samaria are exposed. For they do what is wrong; thieves break into houses, and gangs rob people out in the streets.

Hosea 7:1 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 6:11b-7:1 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ἐν τῷ ἰάσασθαί με τὸν Ισραηλ καὶ ἀποκαλυφθήσεται ἡ ἀδικία Εφραιμ καὶ ἡ κακία Σαμαρείας ὅτι ἠργάσαντο ψευδῆ καὶ κλέπτης πρὸς αὐτὸν εἰσελεύσεται ἐκδιδύσκων λῃστὴς ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ αὐτοῦ	6:11 ἐν τῷ ἰάσασθαί με τὸν ᾿Ισραήλ. 7:1 ΚΑΙ ἀποκαλυφθήσεται ἡ ἀδικία ᾿Εφραὶμ καὶ ἡ κακία Σαμαρείας, ὅτι εἰργάσαντο ψευδῆ· καὶ κλέπτης πρὸς αὐτὸν εἰσελεύσεται, ἐκδιδύσκων λῃστὴς ἐν τῇ ὁδῷ αὐτοῦ
Hosea 7:1 (NETS)	Hosea 6:11b-7:1 (English Elpenor)
when I heal Israel. And the injustice of Ephraim will be revealed, and the wickedness of Samaria, because they have performed lies. And a thief will come in to him, a bandit plundering in his way.	6:11 when I have healed Israel. 7:1 Then shall the iniquity of Ephraim be revealed, and the wickedness of Samaria; for they have wrought falsehood: and a thief shall come in to him, [even] a robber spoiling in his way;

Hosea 7:2 (Tanakh)	Hosea 7:2 (KJV)	Hosea 7:2 (NET)
And they consider not in their hearts that I remember all their wickedness: now their own doings have beset them about; they are before my face.	And they consider not in their hearts that I remember all their wickedness: now their own doings have beset them about; they are before my face.	They do not realize that I remember all their wicked deeds. Their evil deeds have now surrounded them; their sinful deeds are always before me.

Hosea 7:2 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 7:2 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ὅπως συνᾴδωσιν ὡς συνᾴδοντες τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτῶν πάσας τὰς κακίας αὐτῶν ἐμνήσθην νῦν ἐκύκλωσεν αὐτοὺς τὰ διαβούλια αὐτῶν ἀπέναντι τοῦ προσώπου μου ἐγένοντο	ὅπως συνᾴδωσιν ὡς ᾄδοντες τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτῶν. πάσας τὰς κακίας αὐτῶν ἐμνήσθην· νῦν ἐκύκλωσαν αὐτοὺς τὰ διαβούλια αὐτῶν, ἀπέναντι τοῦ προσώπου μου ἐγένοντο
Hosea 7:2 (NETS)	Hosea 7:2 (English Elpenor)
that they might sing together like those who sing together with their heart. Now their deliberations have surrounded them; they came before my face.	that they may concert together as [men] singing in their heart: I remember all their wickedness: now have their own counsels compassed them about; they came before my face.

Hosea 8:11 (Tanakh)	Hosea 8:11 (KJV)	Hosea 8:11 (NET)
Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.	Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.	Although Ephraim has built many altars for sin offerings, these have become altars for sinning.

Hosea 8:11 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 8:11 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ὅτι ἐπλήθυνεν Εφραιμ θυσιαστήρια εἰς ἁμαρτίας ἐγένοντο αὐτῷ θυσιαστήρια ἠγαπημένα	ὅτι ἐπλήθυνεν ᾿Εφραὶμ θυσιαστήρια, εἰς ἁμαρτίας ἐγένοντο αὐτῷ θυσιαστήρια ἠγαπημένα
Hosea 8:11 (NETS)	Hosea 8:11 (English Elpenor)
Because Ephraim multiplied altars, beloved altars became sins to him.	Because Ephraim has multiplied altars, [his] beloved altars are become sins to him.

Hosea 8:12 (Tanakh)	Hosea 8:12 (KJV)	Hosea 8:12 (NET)
I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.	I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.	I spelled out my law for him in great detail, but they regard it as something totally unknown to them.

Hosea 8:12 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 8:12 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καταγράψω αὐτῷ πλῆθος καὶ τὰ νόμιμα αὐτοῦ εἰς ἀλλότρια ἐλογίσθησαν θυσιαστήρια τὰ ἠγαπημένα	καταγράψω αὐτῷ πλῆθος καὶ τὰ νόμιμα αὐτοῦ, εἰς ἀλλότρια ἐλογίσθησαν θυσιαστήρια τὰ ἠγαπημένα
Hosea 8:12 (NETS)	Hosea 8:12 (English Elpenor)
I shall engrave for him a multitude, even his precepts; the beloved altars were reckoned as foreign.	I will write down a multitude [of commands] for him; but his statutes are accounted strange things, [even] the beloved altars.

Hosea 11:3 (Tanakh)	Hosea 11:3 (KJV)	Hosea 11:3 (NET)
I taught Ephraim also to go, taking them by their arms; but they knew not that I healed them.	I taught Ephraim also to go, taking them by their arms; but they knew not that I healed them.	Yet it was I who led Ephraim; I took them by the arm, but they did not acknowledge that I had healed them.

Hosea 11:3 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 11:3 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ ἐγὼ συνεπόδισα τὸν Εφραιμ ἀνέλαβον αὐτὸν ἐπὶ τὸν βραχίονά μου καὶ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν ὅτι ἴαμαι αὐτούς	καὶ ἐγὼ συνεπόδισα τὸν ᾿Εφραίμ, ἀνέλαβον αὐτὸν ἐπὶ τὸν βραχίονά μου, καὶ οὐκ ἔγνωσαν ὅτι ἴαμαι αὐτούς
Hosea 11:3 (NETS)	Hosea 11:3 (English Elpenor)
And it was I who bound the feet of Ephraim, took him upon my arm; and they did not know that I had healed them.	Yet I bound the feet of Ephraim, I took him on my arm; but they knew not that I healed them.

Hosea 11:8 (Tanakh)	Hosea 11:8 (KJV)	Hosea 11:8 (NET)
How shall I give thee up, Ephraim? how shall I deliver thee, Israel? how shall I make thee as Admah? how shall I set thee as Zeboim? mine heart is turned within me, my repentings are kindled together.	How shall I give thee up, Ephraim? how shall I deliver thee, Israel? how shall I make thee as Admah? how shall I set thee as Zeboim? mine heart is turned within me, my repentings are kindled together.	“How can I give you up, O Ephraim? How can I surrender you, O Israel? How can I treat you like Admah? How can I make you like Zeboyim? I have had a change of heart. All my tender compassions are aroused.

Hosea 11:8 (Septuagint BLB)	Hosea 11:8 (Septuagint Elpenor)
τί σε διαθῶ Εφραιμ ὑπερασπιῶ σου Ισραηλ τί σε διαθῶ ὡς Αδαμα θήσομαί σε καὶ ὡς Σεβωιμ μετεστράφη ἡ καρδία μου ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ συνεταράχθη ἡ μεταμέλειά μου	τί σε διαθῶμαι, ᾿Εφραίμ; ὑπερασπιῶ σου, ᾿Ισραήλ; τί σε διαθῷ; ὡς ᾿Αδαμὰ θήσομαί σε καὶ ὡς Σεβνείμ; μετεστράφη ἡ καρδία μου ἐν τῷ αὐτῷ, συνεταράχθη ἡ μεταμέλειά μου
Hosea 11:8 (NETS)	Hosea 11:8 (English Elpenor)
How am I to deal with you, O Ephraim? Shall I shield you, O Israel? How am I to deal with you? Shall I make you like Adama and like Seboim? My heart has changed together; my sense of regret was disturbed.	How shall I deal with thee, Ephraim? [how] shall I protect thee, Israel? what shall I do with thee? I will make thee as Adama, and as Seboim; my heart is turned at once, my repentance is powerfully excited.

2 Samuel 14:2 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:2 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:2 (NET)
And Joab sent to Tekoa, and fetched thence a wise woman, and said unto her: ‘I pray thee, feign thyself to be a mourner, and put on mourning apparel, I pray thee, and anoint not thyself with oil, but be as a woman that had a long time mourned for the dead;	And Joab sent to Tekoah, and fetched thence a wise woman, and said unto her, I pray thee, feign thyself to be a mourner, and put on now mourning apparel, and anoint not thyself with oil, but be as a woman that had a long time mourned for the dead:	So Joab sent to Tekoa and brought from there a wise woman. He told her, “Pretend to be in mourning and put on garments for mourning. Don’t anoint yourself with oil. Instead, act like a woman who has been mourning for the dead for some time.

2 Samuel 14:2 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:2 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ ἀπέστειλεν Ιωαβ εἰς Θεκωε καὶ ἔλαβεν ἐκεῗθεν γυναῗκα σοφὴν καὶ εἶπεν πρὸς αὐτήν πένθησον δὴ καὶ ἔνδυσαι ἱμάτια πενθικὰ καὶ μὴ ἀλείψῃ ἔλαιον καὶ ἔσῃ ὡς γυνὴ πενθοῦσα ἐπὶ τεθνηκότι τοῦτο ἡμέρας πολλὰς	καὶ ἀπέστειλεν ᾿Ιωὰβ εἰς Θεκωέ, καὶ ἔλαβεν ἐκεῖθεν γυναῖκα σοφὴν καὶ εἶπε πρὸς αὐτήν· πένθησον δὴ καὶ ἔνδυσαι ἱμάτια πενθικὰ καὶ μὴ ἀλείψῃ ἔλαιον καὶ ἔσῃ ὡς γυνὴ πενθοῦσα ἐπὶ τεθνηκότι τοῦτο ἡμέρας πολλὰς
2 Reigns 14:2 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:2 (English Elpenor)
And Joab sent to Thekoe and took from there a wise woman and said to her, “Do mourn, and put on mourning garments, and do not anoint yourself with oil, and you shall be as a woman mourning over one who has been dead here many days,	And Joab sent to Thecoe, and took thence a cunning woman, and said to her, Mourn, I pray thee, and put on mourning apparel, and anoint thee not with oil, and thou shalt be as a woman mourning for one that is dead thus for many days.

2 Samuel 14:3 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:3 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:3 (NET)
and go in to the king, and speak on this manner unto him.’ So Joab put the words in her mouth.	And come to the king, and speak on this manner unto him. So Joab put the words in her mouth.	Go to the king and speak to him in the following fashion.” Then Joab told her what to say.

2 Samuel 14:3 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:3 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ ἐλεύσῃ πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα καὶ λαλήσεις πρὸς αὐτὸν κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο καὶ ἔθηκεν Ιωαβ τοὺς λόγους ἐν τῷ στόματι αὐτῆς	καὶ ἐλεύσῃ πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα καὶ λαλήσεις πρὸς αὐτὸν κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο· καὶ ἔθηκεν ᾿Ιωὰβ τοὺς λόγους ἐν τῷ στόματι αὐτῆς
2 Reigns 14:3 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:3 (English Elpenor)
and you shall go to the king and speak to him according to this matter.” And Ioab put the words into her mouth.	And thou shalt go to the king, and speak to him according to this word. And Joab put the words in her mouth.

2 Samuel 14:7 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:7 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:7 (NET)
And, behold, the whole family is risen against thy handmaid, and they said: Deliver him that smote his brother, that we may kill him for the life of his brother whom he slew, and so destroy the heir also. Thus will they quench my coal which is left, and will leave to my husband neither name nor remainder upon the face of the earth.’	And, behold, the whole family is risen against thine handmaid, and they said, Deliver him that smote his brother, that we may kill him, for the life of his brother whom he slew; and we will destroy the heir also: and so they shall quench my coal which is left, and shall not leave to my husband neither name nor remainder upon the earth.	Now the entire family has risen up against your servant, saying, ‘Turn over the one who struck down his brother, so that we can execute him and avenge the death of his brother whom he killed. In so doing we will also destroy the heir.’ They want to extinguish my remaining coal, leaving no one on the face of the earth to carry on the name of my husband.”

2 Samuel 14:7 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:7 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ ἰδοὺ ἐπανέστη ὅλη ἡ πατριὰ πρὸς τὴν δούλην σου καὶ εἶπαν δὸς τὸν παίσαντα τὸν ἀδελφὸν αὐτοῦ καὶ θανατώσομεν αὐτὸν ἀντὶ τῆς ψυχῆς τοῦ ἀδελφοῦ αὐτοῦ οὗ ἀπέκτεινεν καὶ ἐξαροῦμεν καί γε τὸν κληρονόμον ὑμῶν καὶ σβέσουσιν τὸν ἄνθρακά μου τὸν καταλειφθέντα ὥστε μὴ θέσθαι τῷ ἀνδρί μου κατάλειμμα καὶ ὄνομα ἐπὶ προσώπου τῆς γῆς	καὶ ἰδοὺ ἐπανέστη ὅλη ἡ πατριὰ πρὸς τὴν δούλην σου καὶ εἶπαν· δὸς τὸν παίσαντα τὸν ἀδελφὸν αὐτοῦ καὶ θανατώσομεν αὐτὸν ἀντὶ τῆς ψυχῆς τοῦ ἀδελφοῦ αὐτοῦ, οὗ ἀπέκτεινε, καὶ ἐξαροῦμεν καί γε τὸν κληρονόμον ὑμῶν· καὶ σβέσουσι τὸν ἄνθρακά μου τὸν καταλειφθέντα, ὥστε μὴ θέσθαι τῷ ἀνδρί μου κατάλειμμα καὶ ὄνομα ἐπὶ προσώπου τῆς γῆς
2 Reigns 14:7 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:7 (English Elpenor)
And behold, the whole paternal family rose up against your slave, and they said, ‘Give up the one who struck his brother, and we will put him to death for the life of his brother whom he killed, and we will remove indeed your heir.’ And they will quench my ember that is left, so as not to establish for my husband remnant and name on the face of the earth.”	And behold the whole family rose up against thine handmaid, and they said, Give up the one that smote his brother, and we will put him to death for the life of his brother, whom he slew, and we will take away even your heir: so they will quench my coal that is left, so as not to leave my husband remnant or name on the face of the earth.

2 Samuel 14:8 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:8 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:8 (NET)
And the king said unto the woman: ‘Go to thy house, and I will give charge concerning thee.’	And the king said unto the woman, Go to thine house, and I will give charge concerning thee.	Then the king told the woman, “Go to your home. I will give instructions concerning your situation.”

2 Samuel 14:8 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:8 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεύς ὑγιαίνουσα βάδιζε εἰς τὸν οἶκόν σου κἀγὼ ἐντελοῦμαι περὶ σοῦ	καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεὺς πρὸς τὴν γυναῖκα· ὑγιαίνουσα βάδιζε εἰς τὸν οἶκόν σου, κἀγὼ ἐντελοῦμαι περὶ σοῦ
2 Reigns 14:8 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:8 (English Elpenor)
And the king said, “Proceed to your house in good health, and I will give command concerning you.”	And the king said to the woman, Go in peace to thy house, and I will give commandment concerning thee.

2 Samuel 14:10 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:10 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:10 (NET)
And the king said: ‘Whosoever saith aught unto thee, bring him to me, and he shall not touch thee any more.’	And the king said, Whosoever saith ought unto thee, bring him to me, and he shall not touch thee any more.	The king said, “Bring to me whoever speaks to you, and he won’t bother you again!”

2 Samuel 14:10 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:10 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεύς τίς ὁ λαλῶν πρὸς σέ καὶ ἄξεις αὐτὸν πρὸς ἐμέ καὶ οὐ προσθήσει ἔτι ἅψασθαι αὐτοῦ	καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεύς· τίς ὁ λαλῶν πρός σε; καί ἄξεις αὐτὸν πρὸς ἐμέ, καὶ οὐ προσθήσει ἔτι ἅψασθαι αὐτοῦ
2 Reigns 14:10 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:10 (English Elpenor)
And the king said, “Who was speaking to you? You shall also bring him to me, and he shall not any longer touch him.”	And the king said, Who was it that spoke to thee? thou shalt even bring him to me, and [one] shall not touch him any more.

2 Samuel 14:11 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:11 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:11 (NET)
Then said she: ‘I pray thee, let the king remember HaShem thy G-d, that the avenger of blood destroy not any more, lest they destroy my son.’ And he said: ‘As HaShem liveth, there shall not one hair of thy son fall to the earth.’	Then said she, I pray thee, let the king remember the LORD thy God, that thou wouldest not suffer the revengers of blood to destroy any more, lest they destroy my son. And he said, As the LORD liveth, there shall not one hair of thy son fall to the earth.	She replied, “In that case, let the king invoke the name of the Lord your God so that the avenger of blood may not add to the killing! Then they will not destroy my son!” He replied, “As surely as the Lord lives, not a single hair of your son’s head will fall to the ground.”

2 Samuel 14:11 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:11 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν μνημονευσάτω δὴ ὁ βασιλεὺς τὸν κύριον θεὸν αὐτοῦ πληθυνθῆναι ἀγχιστέα τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ διαφθεῗραι καὶ οὐ μὴ ἐξάρωσιν τὸν υἱόν μου καὶ εἶπεν ζῇ κύριος εἰ πεσεῗται ἀπὸ τῆς τριχὸς τοῦ υἱοῦ σου ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν	καὶ εἶπε· μνημονευσάτω δὴ ὁ βασιλεὺς τὸν Κύριον Θεὸν αὐτοῦ πληθυνθῆναι ἀγχιστέα τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ διαφθεῖραι καὶ οὐ μὴ ἐξάρωσι τὸν υἱόν μου· καὶ εἶπε· ζῇ Κύριος, εἰ πεσεῖται ἀπὸ τῆς τριχὸς τοῦ υἱοῦ σου ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν
2 Reigns 14:11 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:11 (English Elpenor)
And she said, “Do let the king keep the Lord, his God, in mind, that a next of kin of blood succeed in destroying him, and they shall not remove my son.” And he said, “The Lord lives, if a hair of your son shall fall on the ground!”	And she said, Let now the king remember concerning his Lord God in that the avenger of blood is multiplied to destroy, and let them not take away my son. And he said, [As] the Lord lives, not a hair of thy son shall fall to the ground.

2 Samuel 14:13 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:13 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:13 (NET)
And the woman said: ‘Wherefore then hast thou devised such a thing against the people of G-d? for in speaking this word the king is as one that is guilty, in that the king doth not fetch home again his banished one.	And the woman said, Wherefore then hast thou thought such a thing against the people of God? for the king doth speak this thing as one which is faulty, in that the king doth not fetch home again his banished.	The woman said, “Why have you devised something like this against God’s people? When the king speaks in this fashion, he makes himself guilty, for the king has not brought back the one he has banished.

2 Samuel 14:13 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:13 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνή ἵνα τί ἐλογίσω τοιοῦτο ἐπὶ λαὸν θεοῦ ἦ ἐκ στόματος τοῦ βασιλέως ὁ λόγος οὗτος ὡς πλημμέλεια τοῦ μὴ ἐπιστρέψαι τὸν βασιλέα τὸν ἐξωσμένον αὐτοῦ	καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνή· ἱνατί ἐλογίσω τοιοῦτο ἐπὶ λαὸν Θεοῦ; ἦ ἐκ στόματος τοῦ βασιλέως ὁ λόγος οὗτος ὡς πλημμέλεια τοῦ μὴ ἐπιστρέψαι τὸν βασιλέα τὸν ἐξωσμένον αὐτοῦ
2 Reigns 14:13 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:13 (English Elpenor)
And the woman said, “Why did you calculate such a thing against God’s people? Is this word out of the king’s mouth an error, inasmuch as the king did not bring back his own banished one?	And the woman said, Why hast thou devised this thing against the people of God? or [is] this word out of the king’s mouth as a transgression, so that the king should not bring back his banished?

2 Samuel 14:14 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:14 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:14 (NET)
For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth G-d respect any person; but let him devise means, that he that is banished be not an outcast from him.	For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means, that his banished be not expelled from him.	Certainly we must die, and are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again. But God does not take away life; instead he devises ways for the banished to be restored.

2 Samuel 14:14 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:14 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ὅτι θανάτῳ ἀποθανούμεθα καὶ ὥσπερ τὸ ὕδωρ τὸ καταφερόμενον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς ὃ οὐ συναχθήσεται καὶ λήμψεται ὁ θεὸς ψυχήν καὶ λογιζόμενος τοῦ ἐξῶσαι ἀπ᾽ αὐτοῦ ἐξωσμένον	ὅτι θανάτῳ ἀποθανούμεθα, καὶ ὥσπερ τὸ ὕδωρ τὸ καταφερόμενον ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, ὃ οὐ συναχθήσεται· καὶ λήψεται ὁ Θεὸς ψυχήν, καὶ λογιζόμενος τοῦ ἐξῶσαι ἀπ’ αὐτοῦ ἐξεωσμένον
2 Reigns 14:14 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:14 (English Elpenor)
For by death we shall die and be as water that is spilled on the ground, which shall not be gathered up. And God shall take a life, even as he calculates to banish a banished one from him.	For we shall surely die, and be as water poured upon the earth, which shall not be gathered up, and God shall take the life, even as he devises to thrust forth from him his outcast.

2 Samuel 14:15 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:15 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:15 (NET)
Now therefore seeing that I am come to speak this word unto my lord the king, it is because the people have made me afraid; and thy handmaid said: I will now speak unto the king; it may be that the king will perform the request of his servant.	Now therefore that I am come to speak of this thing unto my lord the king, it is because the people have made me afraid: and thy handmaid said, I will now speak unto the king; it may be that the king will perform the request of his handmaid.	I have now come to speak with my lord the king about this matter, because the people have made me fearful. But your servant said, ‘I will speak to the king! Perhaps the king will do what his female servant asks.

2 Samuel 14:15 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:15 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ νῦν ὃ ἦλθον λαλῆσαι πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα τὸν κύριόν μου τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο ὅτι ὄψεταί με ὁ λαός καὶ ἐρεῗ ἡ δούλη σου λαλησάτω δὴ πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα εἴ πως ποιήσει ὁ βασιλεὺς τὸ ῥῆμα τῆς δούλης αὐτοῦ	καὶ νῦν ὃ ἦλθον λαλῆσαι πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα τὸν κύριόν μου τὸ ρῆμα τοῦτο, ὅτι ὄψεταί με ὁ λαός, καὶ ἐρεῖ ἡ δούλη σου· λαλησάτω δὴ πρὸς τὸν κύριόν μου τὸν βασιλέα, εἴπως ποιήσει ὁ βασιλεὺς τὸ ρῆμα τῆς δούλης αὐτοῦ
2 Reigns 14:15 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:15 (English Elpenor)
And now, what I came to say to the king my lord is this word, because the people will see me, and your slave will say, ‘Do let one speak to the king, if somehow the king will enact the word of his slave;	And now whereas I came to speak this word to my lord the king, [the reason is] that the people will see me, and thy handmaid will say, Let one now speak to my lord the king, if peradventure the king will perform the request of his handmaid;

2 Samuel 14:16 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:16 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:16 (NET)
For the king will hear, to deliver his servant out of the hand of the man that would destroy me and my son together out of the inheritance of G-d.	For the king will hear, to deliver his handmaid out of the hand of the man that would destroy me and my son together out of the inheritance of God.	Yes! The king may listen and deliver his female servant from the hand of the man who seeks to remove both me and my son from the inheritance God has given us!’

2 Samuel 14:16 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:16 (Septuagint Elpenor)
ὅτι ἀκούσει ὁ βασιλεὺς ῥύσασθαι τὴν δούλην αὐτοῦ ἐκ χειρὸς τοῦ ἀνδρὸς τοῦ ζητοῦντος ἐξᾶραί με καὶ τὸν υἱόν μου ἀπὸ κληρονομίας θεοῦ	ὅτι ἀκούσει ὁ βασιλεύς· ρυσάσθω τὴν δούλην αὐτοῦ ἐκ χειρὸς τοῦ ἀνδρὸς τοῦ ζητοῦντος ἐξᾶραί με καὶ τὸν υἱόν μου ἀπὸ κληρονομίας Θεοῦ
2 Reigns 14:16 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:16 (English Elpenor)
for the king will hear, and so to deliver his slave from the hand of the man who seeks to remove me and my son from a divine heritage.’”	for the king will hear. Let him rescue his handmaid out of the hand of the man that seeks to cast out me and my son from the inheritance of God.

2 Samuel 14:17 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:17 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:17 (NET)
Then thy handmaid said: Let, I pray thee, the word of my lord the king be for my comfort; for as an angel of G-d, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad; and HaShem thy G-d be with thee.’	Then thine handmaid said, The word of my lord the king shall now be comfortable: for as an angel of God, so is my lord the king to discern good and bad: therefore the LORD thy God will be with thee.	So your servant said, ‘May the word of my lord the king be my security, for my lord the king is like the angel of God when it comes to deciding between right and wrong! May the Lord your God be with you!’”

2 Samuel 14:17 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:17 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνή εἴη δὴ ὁ λόγος τοῦ κυρίου μου τοῦ βασιλέως εἰς θυσίαν ὅτι καθὼς ἄγγελος θεοῦ οὕτως ὁ κύριός μου ὁ βασιλεὺς τοῦ ἀκούειν τὸ ἀγαθὸν καὶ τὸ πονηρόν καὶ κύριος ὁ θεός σου ἔσται μετὰ σοῦ	καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνή· εἴη δὴ ὁ λόγος τοῦ κυρίου μου τοῦ βασιλέως εἰς θυσίαν, ὅτι καθὼς ἄγγελος Θεοῦ, οὕτως ὁ κύριός μου ὁ βασιλεὺς τοῦ ἀκούειν τὸ ἀγαθὸν καὶ τὸ πονηρόν, καὶ Κύριος ὁ Θεός σου ἔσται μετὰ σοῦ
2 Reigns 14:17 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:17 (English Elpenor)
And the woman said, “May the word of my lord the king indeed be as an offering, for as a divine angel, so is my lord the king, to hear the good and the evil, and the Lord your God shall be with you!”	And the woman said, If now the word of my lord the king be gracious,– [well]: for as an angel of God, so [is] my lord the king, to hear good and evil: and the Lord thy God shall be with thee.

2 Samuel 14:19 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:19 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:19 (NET)
And the king said: ‘Is the hand of Joab with thee in all this?’ And the woman answered and said: ‘As thy soul liveth, my lord the king, none can turn to the right hand or to the left from aught that my lord the king hath spoken; for thy servant Joab, he bade me, and he put all these words in the mouth of thy handmaid;	And the king said, Is not the hand of Joab with thee in all this? And the woman answered and said, As thy soul liveth, my lord the king, none can turn to the right hand or to the left from ought that my lord the king hath spoken: for thy servant Joab, he bade me, and he put all these words in the mouth of thine handmaid:	The king said, “Did Joab put you up to all of this?” The woman answered, “As surely as you live, my lord the king, there is no deviation to the right or to the left from all that my lord the king has said. For your servant Joab gave me instructions. He has put all these words in your servant’s mouth.

2 Samuel 14:19 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:19 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεύς μὴ ἡ χεὶρ Ιωαβ ἐν παντὶ τούτῳ μετὰ σοῦ καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνὴ τῷ βασιλεῗ ζῇ ἡ ψυχή σου κύριέ μου βασιλεῦ εἰ ἔστιν εἰς τὰ δεξιὰ ἢ εἰς τὰ ἀριστερὰ ἐκ πάντων ὧν ἐλάλησεν ὁ κύριός μου ὁ βασιλεύς ὅτι ὁ δοῦλός σου Ιωαβ αὐτὸς ἐνετείλατό μοι καὶ αὐτὸς ἔθετο ἐν τῷ στόματι τῆς δούλης σου πάντας τοὺς λόγους τούτους	καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεύς· μὴ ἡ χεὶρ ᾿Ιωὰβ ἐν παντὶ τούτῳ μετὰ σοῦ; καὶ εἶπεν ἡ γυνὴ τῷ βασιλεῖ· ζῇ ἡ ψυχή σου, κύριέ μου βασιλεῦ, εἰ ἔστιν εἰς τὰ δεξιὰ ἢ εἰς τὰ ἀριστερὰ ἐκ πάντων, ὧν ἐλάλησεν ὁ κύριός μου ὁ βασιλεύς, ὅτι ὁ δοῦλός σου ᾿Ιωὰβ αὐτὸς ἐνετείλατό μοι, καὶ αὐτὸς ἔθετο ἐν τῷ στόματι τῆς δούλης σου πάντας τοὺς λόγους τούτους
2 Reigns 14:19 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:19 (English Elpenor)
And the king said, “The hand of Ioab is not in all this with you, is it?” And the woman said to the king, “Your soul lives, my lord O king, if there is to the right or to the left from anything that my lord the king said! For your slave Ioab himself commanded me, and he himself put all these words in the mouth of your slave.	And the king said, [Is] not the hand of Joab in all this matter with thee? and the woman said to the king, [As] thy soul lives, my lord, O king, there is no turning to the right hand or to the left from all that my lord the king has spoken; for thy servant Joab himself charged me, and he put all these words in the mouth of thine handmaid.

2 Samuel 14:21 (Tanakh)	2 Samuel 14:21 (KJV)	2 Samuel 14:21 (NET)
And the king said unto Joab: ‘Behold now, I have granted this request; go therefore, bring the young man Absalom back.’	And the king said unto Joab, Behold now, I have done this thing: go therefore, bring the young man Absalom again.	Then the king said to Joab, “All right! I will do this thing. Go and bring back the young man Absalom!”

2 Samuel 14:21 (Septuagint BLB)	2 Kings 14:21 (Septuagint Elpenor)
καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεὺς πρὸς Ιωαβ ἰδοὺ δὴ ἐποίησά σοι κατὰ τὸν λόγον σου τοῦτον πορεύου ἐπίστρεψον τὸ παιδάριον τὸν Αβεσσαλωμ	καὶ εἶπεν ὁ βασιλεὺς πρὸς ᾿Ιωάβ· ἰδοὺ δὴ ἐποίησά σοι κατὰ τὸν λόγον σου τοῦτον· πορεύου, ἐπίστρεψον τὸ παιδάριον τὸν ᾿Αβεσσαλώμ
2 Reigns 14:21 (NETS)	2 Kings 14:21 (English Elpenor)
And the king said to Ioab, “Behold now, I acted for you according to this your word; go, bring back the lad Abessalom.”	And the king said to Joab, Behold now, I have done to thee according to this thy word: go, bring back the young man Abessalom.